I practiced law for 30 years, most of which I was a litigator. From that perspective, Professor Lubet’s book is a wonderful metaphor for learning trial practice at its most essential level. These are complementary skills that teach practitioners of both poker-playing and lawyering about probability, risk, reward, and dealing with opponents and less-than-perfect hands. These skills are best learned in a small-bore environment where lessons can be learned and reflected on without risk to one’s clients.[yahooquestion]poker+lessons[/yahooquestion]
The other day I was having a fun free poker site Sit and Go game when my belief in the strength of sets was severely shaken. If you're not sure what I mean by set then it's simple, it's a hand made of a pocket pair plus a board card of the same rank, for example, you get pocket 6's (6-6) and the flop comes up 4-6-8
More so, it was a sharp free online poker lesson on maturity. I know now when a Sets power is diminished.
A Set is very powerful if, say, you have 5-5 and the flop comes A-10-5. At this point, against A-x (excepting A-10), you will be a 99-1 favorite, and if the other player happened to have A-K or A-Q, you will see all the trouble he will have later when he moves all-in or calls your all-in.
But at this Sit-and-Go, with six players (blinds 10-20, average stack 1500), I was first to act. I had 4c-4s. I raised to 50. The button poker lessons called, as well as the blinds.
The flop came 4h-6h-7d. Small blind checked; before me, big blind bet 200.
I said to myself, "How could he place such a big old bet (pot-sized)?". Those players in previous hands always play any hand that drops on their computer screens. They may have A-6 or A-7, but also 8-7 or even 8-5. Or any two Hearts. They never know when to fold or not. And you don't know when your made Two-Pair will be crushed.
So I figured that the power of my Set was gravely reduced, so I just called in the hope that the Board would pair during the Turn, but the main reason is because there are were dangerous cards that can fall.
A Three, a Five or an Eight will render my Set unplayable, unless everyone checks; a Heart will jeopardize my chances.
Usually, I am inclined to move all-in with a Set, but there might be a stray Five. They are willing to call all-ins, even with draws. Even with gutshot draws. They do it all day.
And I can't banish them out of a draw by power-play. What if all of them call?
The turn came 3d. There are two Flush draws on the Board and one to a Straight.
Small blind checks; the Big Blind moved all-in (he had 1400 chips, I had 1200).
On already a pot of 2200, although I am getting 2-to-1 on a call all-in (or possibly 3-to-1 or 4-to-1 if the two others call), I folded. The Button called; Small Blind folded.
They showed the hands I guessed they had: an Ad-5c, and Qh-Jh. Either way, I will be smothered if I called too; the chance of the Board pairing is just 25% (10 out of 40) and I would be getting only 3-to-1. Not only I escaped devastating math; I also escaped the onslaught of made hands and big draws.
The point of this is: If a good hand doesn't stay good, then it's no longer good. Its goodness is just a memory, and if you pursue the beaten path your chips will soon turn into a memory as well. Try it out of free poker sites and see how yoo go before risking real cash.
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This book is very informative. I can recommend this book 110%. Rookies to intermediates will enjoy reading this book on how to play NLH.
The first book I read on poker was “The Real Deal” by Phil Gordon. After that was many by David Sklansky, and Dan Harrington. After playing for several years, I went back to Phil for “The Little Green Book”. This book is excellent as it’s not so much a how to guide, but more of a look in how an accomplished player works through a hand. Deciding on the best action to take to get more money into the pot when you’re ahead, and recognize when you should look for the door.
I think this is a great book for beginners, and a sort of medium strength resource for players that have been into NLHE for a year or two. The author does a great job of explaining the basics. I also thought he did an extremely good job of reading (for the audio CD). For anyone who isn’t a pro and hasn’t read Sklansky or Harrington, I would highly recommend this audio CD. It beats the heck out of most radio!
This book is well structured and in a logical order. I have found poker books of the past to be some what all over the place with regard to strategies. Finally a quick reference book for a tight- aggressive poker player.
You don’t have to love poker to enjoy this book. I’m a mediocre player myself and will never confuse a card game with real life, but this book is so damned readable — smart and provocative and memorably snarky — that I savored it the way I’d savor the conversation of a wise, battled-tested old pro in virtually any walk of life. The hundred chapter epigraphs alone are worth the price of admission and constitute, taken together, a nice little primer on the game.
This is a terrific little book…filled with gems of game wisdom that carry over to “real life. Highly recommended!
This is a wonderful read–brisk, blunt, sarcastic, witty, even a little nasty. But, at all times, extremely well written and engaging. It not only offers the reader valuable tools to psych out other poker players, but also provides a playbook for out-foxing all those troublesome competitors, foes and rivals that we encounter in life. Highly recommended!
If you are looking for a book to improve your poker game…this is not it. If you are looking to understand life as a whole…this may be it.
There’s far less that could be learned from this book than one could by watching a few law-related TV shows.
The poker related explanations are rather mediocre so that poker players would get bored, and one gets a feeling that the author is stretching to find an anecdote to fit every situation.
The text is peppered with anecdotes that are mildly interesting, both poker-related and from legal cases. If there’s the ideal book that brings the two topics together, this is not it. I found no eye-popping revelations, it felt like a routine drill, covering all the angles–never going too deep.
I actually picked up this book to see if I could learn anything in preparation for a tort case–as I am not a lawyer but a competent poker player. I learned one thing from this book–conceptually, it is not a bad idea to share enough information before trial (during or before discovery) to arrive at a situation where the opponent has enough to achieve an optimal settlement.
So many aspects of law are so complicated that by the time you get to be a lawyer, poker has little to teach you that haven’t already seen. The book proved this belief.
The author (Lubet) uses anecdotes from famous trials to compare actions of poker players with trial lawyers and the witnesses they examine. As a recent law graduate, I noticed he is the same author as two of my trial advocacy text books from law school. Since the publisher is not known for producing pulp, I bought the book for some post-graduate light reading and was not disappointed. However, don’t come here looking for secret trial strategies that nobody else knows, nothing in the book is truly earth shattering.
There is a false assumption among some reviewers (and somewhat present throughout the book) that poker players are quite similar to lawyers. This comparison is as predictable as it is delusional. Most law school graduates can make a modest living in law, but most people who can play poker (even very good players) will unfortunately lose their shirts if they were to attempt to make it their livelihood. Though there may be some behavioral similarities among the two, doing even moderately well at poker takes considerably more skill than doing so in law.
The author points out important differences, particularly in the areas of ethics, lying and flat out mechanical cheating. Lawyers can get away with things that poker players cannot, and vice versa, and the limits of each adjust with the passing of time and the advance of technology.
One of the most interesting observations the author makes is that as the respectability of poker playing is on the rise, the respectability of the legal profession is in decline. Make of this what you will, but unfortunately I agree with him here.
Professor Lubet’s book is thought-provoking, instructive, and entertaining. The similarities between litigation and poker are evident to every litigator, but Professor Lubet’s accounts of various poker maneuvers and strategies will cause even the most seasoned litigator to reexamine conventional thinking. One example: the traditional strategy in defending a deposition is to limit the deponent’s responses as much as possible. Professor Lubet suggests the contrary-that showing your cards in a deposition may increase the pot because 90 percent of cases settle rather than proceed to trial.
Similarly, the early raise (presenting substantial discovery early in the case) even if a bluff (because counsel does not have the resources to consider proceeding to trial), can pay dividends.
Whether the reader is a card player or not, Professor Lubet achieves the difficult task of presenting poker big game moves in an understandable but exciting way. This book is a valuable, entertaining read for every litigator. The uninitiated poker player will have a new found respect for the game.
Inexperienced poker players often mistake poker for a game of chance. In fact, good players recognize that good hands and bad hands even out after many hands. It is the skill with which they play that separates losers from their money.
The advocacy system of law in the USA can appear too much of a game of chance to outsiders. However, Steven Lubet uses poker as a metaphor and guide to the methods behind the apparent madness of lawyerly questions and argument. The writing style is elegant without drowning in complicated language or “legalese.” The author’s dry wit is an added joy.
I bought this book last on Tuesday, stayed up all night reading it and went into work with a whole new attitude. Guess what? This Friday I got a raise! All In gave me the way to finally see how to play the other people in my office, at it worked. Get this book before someone else in office finds out about it. Thank you guys. Plus, the book’s a really good read.
Both of the other reviews do a good job in telling you why not to but this DVD… the producers of these DVDs have actually edited out all of the actual “Camp” lectures and classes and left you with only a very basic overview of what the camp was to offer the participants. If you know that the “Reality Camp” cost over $3000 and bought the DVD’s hoping to get some of the classes on DVD from the camp, there really aren’t any. The talk Howard gives on how he developed as a player from being nearly homeless in New York to playing in some of the biggest games in Las Vegas with Doyle Brunson and Chip Reese is probably the redeeming value in this set but just be aware the classes have been edited out so you get close to no poker instruction.
While Howard’s “Secrets of” videos are probably the best DVD learning tools available today, this 2 DVD set is worthless. The video is basically chopped up pieces of lectures given at his September 2004 Poker Fantasy Camp. The limited amount of information given is marginally valuable at best. My guess is that this video was promised to the people who attended. I would suggest this video is not a great advertisement for future participation.
I am a fan of the “Secrets of hold’em” series and I enjoy listening to Howard Lederer. This dvd basically chops out any meaningful information. Chris Ferguson literally begins a speech on post flop play and it moves to another segment in mid sentence.
First dvd is basically all Howard and he is not giving any meaningful information. Ironically, he talks about all the people that have taught him along the way and how much of an honor it was for him to teach other people. All of that information was cut from these dvds. He talks about his path to becoming a professional and his poker philosophy. Not bad to listen to, but I don’t think that’s what people would be looking for in a poker camp DVD.
Second dvd is award ceremony to camp winners. Worthless speakers like the owner of a bookstore, Howard’s dad (who talks forever), and a tournament director talk about stuff that will never help your game. Phil Gordon takes the stage and offers not one bit of advice. Ferguson talks for less than five minutes on early internet poker. Annie Duke was good, but short (less than 5 minutes). Gus Hansen made an appearance, but answered only one question about his playing style.
All of the speeches concerning poker strategy were deliberately cut out. Considering the price, I am sure people felt they are getting two DVDs of the same knowledge the poker campers were getting. This is not the case. You get opening banquet speeches, closing ceremonies. Some footage of the celebrity pro-am, where they were able to add names like Seidel, Andy Bloch, etc who never spoke on the dvd.
I’m not totally upset over the DVDs because I enjoyed some of the speeches, although none were on poker techniques or strategy. This was the reason for 2 stars (probably should be 1 1/2, but if all this sounds like fun viewing to you, it might be something to get for entertainment). If you expect poker instruction from names like Annie Duke, Howard Lederer, Chris Ferguson, Phil Gordon, etc….you won’t get it here and will be terribly disappointed.